SimplyMEPIS 8.5

May 25, 2010
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The last time I looked at SimplyMEPIS was the 8.0 release. In this review I’ll be taking a look at the latest version, SimplyMEPIS Linux 8.5. SimplyMEPIS is based on Debian, and it uses KDE as its desktop environment.

What’s New In This Release
Here’s a sample of the new stuff you’ll find in this release:

2.6.32 kernel
KDE 4.3
The SimplyMEPIS Welcome Center
NDisWrapper Manager

The Welcome Center
SimplyMEPIS now comes with the MEPIS Welcome Center. The welcome center provides helpful links to support resources, language packs, popular applications and additional community software. The welcome center is a nice addition to SimplyMEPIS though it’s not quite as slick as the one that comes with Linux Mint.

The new SimplyMEPIS welcome center provides helpful links.

KDE 4.3
I love the fact that the SimplyMEPIS developers did not default to the heinously annoying sliding KDE 4 menus. It is so much easier using the KDE 3 style menus. This was a smart move on the developer’s part and I wish more KDE-based distros would emulate it. The sliding menus in KDE 4 are atrocious and counter-intuitive.

SimplyMEPIS uses KDE 3 style menus in KDE 4.3.

The NDisWrapper Manager
If you need to use legacy drivers for wireless access, you’ll love this new tool.

Use the NDisWrapper for legacy drivers.

On the next page I’ll cover hardware requirements, and I’ll show you the install routine.

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17 Responses to SimplyMEPIS 8.5

  1. Sandro on May 26, 2010 at 6:55 am

    It is a little sad that Mepis is not a rolling release…

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  3. rambo on May 26, 2010 at 10:09 am

    Cons: Drab desktop wallpaper. Lacks the cloud integration of Peppermint OS One.

    :)

  4. Alan on May 26, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    @ Sandro:
    That’s kind of the whole point of MEPIS. It’s built on a stable base and has a long release cycle, making it great for people who don’t want to constantly update.

    Besides, sidux already has the “debian rolling release” thing covered. MEPIS fills an important “Debian stable but friendly and with updated apps” niche.

  5. Brian Masinick on May 26, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    I nominate SimplyMEPIS as the top Linux desktop distribution on the market today IF these are your selection criteria:

    1. Stability: SimplyMEPIS is based on Debian Lenny, the current stable Debian version. To that solid Debian core SimplyMEPIS adds additional hardware configuration support and a number of excellent system management tools as described in the review.
    2. Support: The MEPIS Lovers Community, at least to me, is the top vendor supported community in terms of providing excellent documentation, prompt and even mannered responses to requests for help (and that can be rare, as we frequently hear about “blow ups” in various forums), and the software is solid enough to require very infrequent change.
    3. Flexibility: The default SimplyMEPIS distribution is primarily designed for simplicity rather than the ultimate flexibility, yet in spite of that it remains a flexible platform. In support of this assertion, the MEPIS project officially recognizes two significant efforts, the antiX distribution, which allows highly customized systems to be developed at will, and the MEPIS Community Repository, which allows the base MEPIS project to retain only very stable software, yet allows those who want certain additional software to request it and get it.

    In the MEPIS Community Repository, we have seen not only the further advancement of antiX, but we’ve also seen very early versions of KDE 4 applied to a stable MEPIS core, we’ve seen LXDE and XFCE remasters, and we’ve seen a lot of discussion about personal projects to set up a MEPIS based system for either stable, testing, or cutting edge use, taking MEPIS and nearly revamping it in every conceivable fashion.
    Whether it is art work, the latest software, or just experimentation, the MEPIS Community provides it and helps you get it. Yet, for those whose only aspiration is to have a system that works, SimplyMEPIS offers it better than anything that I’ve seen in over 35 years of computer system experience.

  6. Brian Masinick on May 26, 2010 at 1:16 pm

    Alan hits it on the mark as far as a rolling release goes. You can get that with sidux and you can also get it with antiX, an official alternative to SimplyMEPIS.

    Some of the antiX advocates start with an antiX BASE build and create their own completely different system. They may change the kernel – the smxi tool provided allows you, for example, to enable and grab Xen extended kernels written by Damentz, which are well regarded. You can also grab sidux kernels using the same tool, and of course, you can grab any stock Debian kernels as well. When you do so, it begins to require more expertise to understand what you are changing and the implications of those changes. Suffice it to say that if you want it, with MEPIS you can get it and you can do it, and there are those who can help when you have questions too.

  7. tlmck on May 27, 2010 at 12:18 am

    Jim, you forgot to mention the most important help feature available for this distro. It is the Mepis manual icon right on the desktop. It launches in Konquerer but is actually local on the disk. If there is a finer manual out there I have yet to see it. It has excellent general Linux info as well as Mepis specific.

  8. Jim Lynch on May 27, 2010 at 9:11 am

    Tlmck, I think I did mention it in the desktop section didn’t I? :blush:

  9. Brian Masinick on June 4, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    Tlmck, I think I did mention it in the desktop section didn’t I? :blush:

    Read more: http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2010/05/25/simplymepis-8-5/6/#ixzz0pu6jnS68

    You did, but be honest now, was it there all along or did you add it in after Tlmck mentioned it? ;-)

  10. Bob Hoskins on June 11, 2010 at 6:50 am

    I like MEPIS.

  11. Jim Lynch on June 11, 2010 at 6:52 am

    Yeah, it’s a nice distro. For sure, Bob.

  12. Brian Masinick on June 22, 2010 at 11:52 pm

    http://mepislovers.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=48 does have an entire section devoted to art work, for those who get into that kind of thing, but frankly, the KDE Looks site (there are GNOME Looks and XFCE Looks sites as well) has more than enough art work for those who get into this kind of thing. Sure, for those in which appearance rather than function rank high, SimplyMEPIS would not impress, but as Jim pointed out at least twice, SimplyMEPIS is much more of a functional workhorse (a conservative one at that) than it is a cutesy distribution. You can gag on Hanna Montana Linux if you want something with an outlandish appearance that only pre-teen girls would be attracted to (normally).

    To me, SimplyMEPIS starts with Debian Stable (Lenny for both the Version 8.0, KDE 3 release and the Version 8.5, KDE 4 release), and definitely adds value, creating a much easier to install system with extremely valuable system management tools not directly provided by Debian in the core system. Debian experts don’t need such things, but even for some of them, conveniences are appreciated, and SimplyMEPIS delivers.

  13. Kenny MacLeod on July 2, 2010 at 8:16 am

    I have used Mandriva, Linux Mint, Kubuntu & Ubuntu for long spells but always seem to return to Ubuntu (I’m 10.04 at the mo’). I have also given OpenSUSE & Fedora 13 a swing – Fedora was fine but OpenSUSE felt a little rough somehow.

    Recently I’ve loaded Mepis8.5 on a rather troublesome spare desktop of 2004 vintage.

    First impressions are:
    It seems reasonably fast.
    Synaptic is fine although a Softare Centre aka Ubuntu would be nice.
    It looks ok & I suppose that can tweaked.
    I don’t like the menu system – I’ve used KDE3.5, KDE4.3 and Gnome mostly. I agree that the sliding menus of the straight KDE4 type are not great but the Mepis set-up is a bit messy & cluttered. I think Gnome have it more or less right by having three panel menus but maybe this can be changed too.

    Other than that it works well – particularily like the Repair tool which allowed me to fix bad blocks an a dodgy laptop I have.
    Excellent, I never thought KDE4 could be so light.

  14. Brian Masinick on July 2, 2010 at 11:52 am

    I wanted to point out to potentially interested readers that the MEPIS Lovers Community is an excellent resource for SimplyMEPIS and antiX, the two officially sanctioned MEPIS distributions. There is a MEPIS Community Repository, where requested packages are added by experienced community members, adhering to the high standards set by Warren Woodford.

    Just recently a KDE 4 apt-notify applet was created. SimplyMEPIS, in the KDE 3 days, was the first distribution to offer a package update icon notification, a feature you see these days with many systems. When MEPIS came out with the Version 8.5 release, this feature was initially lacking on the task bar, but community members have been working on it, getting it just right, for the past few months, and recently made it available, not just to testers, but to everyone. Warren thought enough about it that he, “MepisGuy”, wrote a Tweet about it.

    Note that for those who have a love for the antiques, there is still a SimplyMEPIS release, 8.0.15, that contains the very stable Debian Lenny packages and KDE 3.5.10. Version 8.5 is also a very stable Lenny based release with the KDE 4.3.4 packages expertly grafted in.

    When the Debian Squeeze release comes out, which is currently in Debian Testing, SimplyMEPIS will come out with a Version 10 (or possibly Version 11, depending on when it is actually released), that will, more than likely, contain KDE SC 4.5.

    Meanwhile, if you want to run Debian Testing on a MEPIS core, grab antiX BASE and use smxi to add whatever desktop environments you want to it, and you get another great, highly tailored system.

    In case you can’t already tell, I am enthusiastic about both SimplyMEPIS (for a stable, reliable desktop system) and antiX for a light, but highly customizable and flexible test system that is solid enough to use for every day use, and its also fast.

  15. Brian Masinick on October 19, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    Brian Masinick wrote:

    Alan hits it on the mark as far as a rolling release goes. You can get that with sidux and you can also get it with antiX, an official alternative to SimplyMEPIS.

    Some of the antiX advocates start with an antiX BASE build and create their own completely different system. They may change the kernel – the smxi tool provided allows you, for example, to enable and grab Xen extended kernels written by Damentz, which are well regarded. You can also grab sidux kernels using the same tool, and of course, you can grab any stock Debian kernels as well. When you do so, it begins to require more expertise to understand what you are changing and the implications of those changes. Suffice it to say that if you want it, with MEPIS you can get it and you can do it, and there are those who can help when you have questions too.

    I have two SimplyMEPIS systems installed. I keep one equipped as delivered, adding only one or two applications that I manage myself in my own directories, and the other one, I’ve hacked almost beyond recognition. I changed it from Debian Lenny (Stable) to Debian Squeeze (current Testing, next release’s Stable), then I disabled the MEPIS repositories and upgraded. It now has the applications at the Squeeze release versions, and I managed to do all of this without hopelessly breaking the system. So I have one SimplyMEPIS 8.5 system and one Pseudo SimplyMEPIS 10 or 11 (depending on when Squeeze gets released and SimplyMEPIS gets upgraded to include the Squeeze code in the new apps).

    I can tell you this: the next SimplyMEPIS release will be excellent! I hope that Warren not only bases it on Debian Squeeze, I hope that he also manages to include a more effective wireless network manager; the one he provides was good for technology four or five years ago, but has unfortunately not aged very well and is in need of a change. Nevertheless, the SimplyMEPIS that is out there today is amazingly stable and the next one promises to be equally stable and at least when it is released, a bit more current. I can hardly wait – could get one in time for Christmas! :-)

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