Linux Mint 13 MATE

Edit: I’ve done a separate review of Cinnamon, for those who prefer that desktop.

Woohoo! It’s Linux Mint time again! Linux Mint 13 (wow, not exactly a lucky number!) has just been released, so I hopped right on it. Linux Mint has long been one of my favorite distros. We’ll find out in this review if the latest version measures up to its previous incarnations.

Linux Mint 13 comes with two different desktop options: MATE or Cinnamon. For this review, I picked the MATE version. You can download either of them. See the install section of the review for download details.

The Linux Mint 13 Welcome Menu

The welcome menu contains link to useful information and help for Linux Mint 13.

Which one should you pick? Well, the Linux Mint developers have come up with a helpful list of the pros and cons of each. If you still aren’t sure after reading them, try running them as Live DVDs to get a taste of each. Just burn each to its own DVD, then boot into that DVD to run Linux Mint without doing an install.

MATE:

Pros:

  • MATE is stable and it works on all computers
  • MATE is among the most productive and easy to use desktops available.
  • MATE continues where Gnome 2 left off and introduces its own incremental improvements.
  • MATE comes with support for mintMenu, mintDesktop, Compiz and everything that made Gnome 2 the most popular Linux desktop.
  • MATE is built with GTK2, it features more themes and integrates with more applications than any other desktop.

Cons:

  • Some parts of Gnome 2 were not migrated to MATE yet and a few aspects such as Bluetooth support might not work as well as they did with Gnome 2.

Cinnamon:

Pros:

  • Cinnamon is among the sleekest and most modern looking environments
  • Cinnamon features innovative features and emphasis on productivity with traditional desktop metaphors
  • Cinnamon is built on rapid technologies and its development pace is really fast
  • The Cinnamon community is very active, and produces a lot of new themes and applets

Cons:

  • Cinnamon requires 3D acceleration and might not work well for you, depending on your graphics card and/or drivers.
  • Cinnamon is brand new and unfortunately not yet as stable as more mature and established desktops such as MATE, KDE or Xfce.
  • Cinnamon relies on Gnome 3 and Clutter, which are also both brand new and going through rapid transformations.
The Home Folder in Linux Mint 13

The home folder in Linux Mint 13.

What’s New In This Release
Here’s a sample of the new features in this release:

Ubuntu 12.04
Linux 3.2
MATE 1.2
Cinnamon 1.4
Yahoo as the default search engine
Latest Mint-X and Mint-Z themes
Additional art work for backgrounds from artist masterbutler
MDM Display Manager

Linux Mint 13 is based on Ubuntu 12.04. If you aren’t familiar with it, please see my earlier review here on DLR.

You can check out a list of Linux 3.2 changes over on Kernel Newbies.

Yahoo is now the default search engine in Linux Mint. There is apparently a revenue sharing arrangement between Yahoo and the Linux Mint developers. Here’s some info about that from the Linux Mint site:

Linux Mint switches to Yahoo as the default search engine for the USA, Canada, the UK, Ireland, Germany, France, Italy and Spain. Yahoo is the 2nd biggest search engine in the World, and the first major search engine to share revenue with Linux Mint. The results page is full of features, it comes with a nice layout, images, videos and blogs search, points of interest, time filters and cached results. Underneath the interface, Yahoo comes with a strong network of advertisers and its addition represents a huge opportunity and an additional source of income for Linux Mint.

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Comments

  1. Paul says

    Desde que descubrí Linuxmint -ya más de dos años- me ha encantado, pero al instalar y trabajar con Linuxmint 13 Maya tuve problemas con la transferencia del panel y de contenido que se ve en pantalla como del libreoffice a un proyector, es decir, se veía el fondo de la pantalla o algún video que ponía pero tanto el panel como otras cosas no aparecieron nunca, al grado de tener que re-instalar Linuxmint 10, ese nunca me ha fallado, yo supongo que fue un problema directo con Mate, ojala y en posteriores entregas lo corrijan, gracias.

  2. senci says

    Linux mint 13 (MATE) (both Debian and Ubuntu) has some serious issues with USB. Locking USB and loosing data is what I got used to. Never before I had to worry about it, but now – good bye Minty.

    • Amadeus128 says

      I have been using Linus Mint MATE for a while now and I have never experienced any problem with USB keys or hard drives.

  3. Alfonso says

    I have a stupid SIS671 onboard video on my laptop.
    And this laptop has something against Ubuntu. Can’t use it since 9.10.
    So, I was happilly running LMDE for a long time.

    After a lot of internet search, hard work and several different tests, I was able to have a working driver to have the 1280×800 resolution on the SIS671 with LMDE.

    And LMDE was working great until the Update Pack 4.
    After this update, there was no way to get back the 1280×800 resolution, no matter what I do.

    Tried Mageia 2, but I can’t get used to it’s package management.

    So, I decided to give Maya MATE a try, after finding a SIS671 driver on a simple deb package built for Precise Pangolin.
    And, for my surprise, worked in Maya.
    With a simple #dpkg -i package.deb and a system restart, 1280×800 was back again.

    Mint is great. Just works. Thanks!

  4. Torin says

    LM 13 MATE is solid as a rock and very light on resources. I wish it had better looking themes. I give it 8/10.

    Cinnamon is too unstable at the moment.

  5. dada says

    IL serait bon que ces commentaires soient en français;

    Concernant mint cinnamon, le problème de bluetooth est général sur toutes les distributions, il est configuré par défaut pour fonctionner sur le réseau, quand aux transfert des photos d’ un téléphone ,il faut bidouiller dans le gestionnaire pour chercher les paquets.

    Je ne trouve plus l’utilitaire de disque, très pratique pour voir ce qui est monté, ou démonter un périphérique

    Pour quelle raison les modules, ICED TEA . WEBCONTROL et INPUT
    METHOD SWITCHER (dans système préférence) n’est t-il pas en français;

    Pour le reste c’est une bonne distribution que j’ai adopté;

    Merci aux contributeurs.
    @

  6. Linuts says

    I like what Mint is “trying” to do, but for serious work this didn’t cut it for me. Mate does okay, but the new Cinnamon is what I was hoping to use. I do like it, but it’s no where near stable enough at this point, locks up, crashes and burns within an hour. You have to use that restart cinnamon button more than it’s worth.

    Reinstalled good Ole Deb Squeeze and xfce4. So far, the best for stability and getting work done has been either slackware or debian’s stable branch.

    JuS2CenTz, worth maybe one.

  7. angga says

    Compiz on GNOME-3 ?? …….. just try precise pangolin with compiz full functioned, it’s really rocks :-) ….. but after 2 weeks I used ubuntu 12.04 with compiz, on my dell inspiron with my daily office job…. after I update “some” kernel or graphic driver on May 27th, I cannot login to use dekstop gnome anymore. just stuck. So, I decided to reinstall Linux Mint 11 with Gnome-2 and Compiz … hehehe :-))

  8. ml says

    What you wrote about Compiz is not true. Compiz doe not really work with MATE. After replaceing marco with compiz all windows are missing titlebars. Without Compiz there is no sense to use MATE, better is to stay with GNOME 2 with Compiz.

    Have you instelled Compiz on MATE? Have you managed to it to work? I doubt it. But if you succeeded, could you please share your experience and put here a description, step by step?

    • Marshall Neill says

      Open up Startup Applications and Add
      Name Compiz
      Command compiz –replace
      Comment add what you want.

      This got compiz working for me. Changing marco to compiz failed for me as well.

      This works for me just fine.

  9. michael says

    i am not new to linux or linux mint, i only said that this is the only time i have to patch linux mint before using. while other linux distros are equally good you have to find a distro that gives you everything you want in a linux distro.
    However, linux mint is good in so many way. one has to stop testing , but start using it to find out how and where it outperforms others

  10. angga says

    It’s seems like trying to go back gnome-2 with some pollished thing :-) …….. better use the new de, the modern one, the next desktop computing :-) precise pangolin with unity, very stable,usable and looks very preety.

  11. Eddie Wilson says

    Good review. Some of the problems people are having with the display are caused by closed source propitiatory drivers. Not much you can do in that case except to wait. I have not had any problems with wireless so I can’t comment on that. Mint is a very good distro but Cinnamon still needs to mature somewhat. Mate is good for people still stuck in the Gnome 2 world. Both worked very well for me and I really have no complaints what so ever, but being somewhat of a power user Ubuntu 12.04 with Unity is a lot easier and faster to get around in. All in all I would say that 4.5 out of 5 is a fair score for Linux Mint. I’m looking forward to your next review.

  12. Michael says

    I tried Unity but i realised that its good only for screenshots. Imo Mint is a very good distro and definetely the best for newcomers.

    • Eddie Wilson says

      I’m not really sure what you mean by “good only for screenshots”. It’s okay to just try something but there is a learning curve and a person need to put a little time into testing to have a valid opinion.

  13. michael says

    slightly disappointed this time. after installing some recommended updates and installing cinnamon my login windows became unreadable. found out DPI was messed up.
    cannot say for sure if it was due to these updates or cinnamon desktop or even nvidia driver installation that brought about this problem. it was easily fixed though, but i was under the impression that linux mint will do none no harm.

    however, it is one of the best, if not the best when it comes to stability and usability. i will agree with the whole review wholeheartedly

  14. Aaron says

    I’ve tried both Mate and Cinnamon with LMDE and found that Mate was very solid and was an easy transition from Gnome 2. The one criticism is that it looks very dated in a Windows XP kind of way. So stability is great but cosmetically it is lacking compared to Unity, KDE, and Cinnamon. Cinnamon today feels like Unity from 11.04, promising but full of bugs. It seemed to crash hourly so being able to restart from the desktop was its only saving grace. Frankly I’m finding that I prefer Unity with 12.04 as it now is mature and working solidly. Its layout is great for wide screens such as laptops. So for the first time since Linux Mint 6, I prefer Ubuntu over Mint. However for a desktop environment, such as in the business world, Mint 13 with Mate would be a solid choice.

  15. Brian Masinick says

    Sounds like it would be a great distro for many people. Unfortunately, for me, though there are work arounds, that b43 firmware issue squarely affects the system I work with the most, so as a result, I doubt that I’ll be doing much serious work with this system. Otherwise, nothing wrong with it, and I’ve used several Mint releases in the past, and in fact, when I first got my Lenovo Y410 laptop with Windows Vista installed on it, the first thing I did was repartition the disk drive and install Linux Mint 9 (I think it was 9, it was a long time ago now). Mint worked well, but I’m just a bit more of a “hands on” guy, so over time, I used it less and less. However, for those who just want to install something and use it, hard to beat Mint (though I personally prefer SimplyMEPIS; it just works without being fancy, no Cinnamon or MATE to worry about, just an antique version of KDE). Anyway, not many others will go that way, so I’d say for most considering a distro, Mint with MATE would be a wise choice.

  16. Scott Moore says

    I have found that my AMD A8 APU system hates the latest Ubuntu and its bedfellows. The proprietary graphics driver makes it clunky and rather cheap feeling. The free driver works better.

    I’ll boot Mint again and doa manual install of the AMD driver to see if things get better.

    Sabayon and other KDE distros work great.

    • Kevin leBlanc says

      I could never get certain codecs working for me with LMDE, plus I was annoyed that I had to install a new kernel right off the bat that would recognize my dual core processor with the latest one.

      I’m back to using PCLinuxOS, KDE edition. The quibbles I’ve had with that distro have been extremely minor, namely having to install Synaptiks to recognize my touchpad, the lack of an actual Software Center like LM’s and Ubuntu’s, and having to install an automated Update Manager. I’ll gladly trade these creature comforts for PCLOS’s stability and reliability any day of the week.

  17. Kevin leBlanc says

    I’ve been having problems with distros based off Ubuntu 12.04, including Linux Mint 13. My system keeps freezing completely, forcing me to do a hard reboot. A lot of people seem to be having the same problem, unfortunately.

    • says

      I used to have the same with OSes based off Ubuntu 11.04 and 11.10. 12.04 seems to be stable on my system. Even a switch to LMDE didn’t really cure it. Which was kind of sad, because I was a long-time Mint user who had switched to LMDE as soon as it came out.
      I’m running Arch with Mate now. Rock-solid, fast, certainly not as unstable as people would have others believe, and best of all, my sensible GNOME 2.3x-style interface is back!

      • Kevin leBlanc says

        I switched back to PCLinuxOS, myself, for exactly the same reasons. Rock-solid, snappy (with KDE!!), and stable.

        My only other problem with it that I didn’t mention to Jim is that it’s homely as sin at first. Thankfully, since it IS KDE, it’s pretty easy to get it looking sweet.

  18. says

    Hi Bernie, glad you found the review helpful. I may do a review of SolusOS at some point, I haven’t had time to get to a number of distros. 

  19. Bernie Victor says

    Nice review. Have you tried SolusOs, very good new debian based distro. Runs like a dream, good alternative to Mint, if you have an older machine.

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